Curse

Mr Pvper · Jan 31, 2008, 02:03 AM // 02:03

I was wondering how well these two mix

[card]Awe[/card] [card]"Coward!"[/card]

I've been trying this combo and it provides constant dazing on a caster target if and only if the person is running (which means u need damage to support Coward).

How well does this combo truely work anwyays

would like some feedback

mrmango · Jan 31, 2008, 02:07 AM // 02:07

That's too conditional in my opinion.

Scary Raebbit · Jan 31, 2008, 02:10 AM // 02:10

Can just run Spear Swipe.
At least you don't have to require Coward/KD.
The person will probably be kiting if there is no Draw/RC, so more openings for KD.
Bad thing is that Swipe has a longer recharge. So daze can't be kept on permanently. But I don't think a monk is going to stay alive if they have Daze on them and are being beat on by melee.

Marverick · Jan 31, 2008, 02:30 AM // 02:30

Spear Swipe is too noticeable... I mean, as a Monk, what are you going to do when a Paragon with a Spear comes running at your face? WTB Guardian + Return.

Songbringer · Jan 31, 2008, 04:12 AM // 04:12

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Originally Posted by Marverick

Spear Swipe is too noticeable... I mean, as a Monk, what are you going to do when a Paragon with a Spear comes running at your face? WTB Guardian + Return.

Play smart bring an axe/sword set and and at last set switch to spear

Racthoh · Jan 31, 2008, 06:26 AM // 06:26

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Originally Posted by Songbringer

Play smart bring an axe/sword set and and at last set switch to spear

I don't see how that would really accomplish anything at all. Even if they are thrown off because the paragon for some reason doesn't have a spear equipped, that will trick them maybe once.

Captain Miken · Jan 31, 2008, 06:40 AM // 06:40

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Originally Posted by Racthoh

I don't see how that would really accomplish anything at all. Even if they are thrown off because the paragon for some reason doesn't have a spear equipped, that will trick them maybe once.

In PvP, yeah...
But keep in mind, this is The Campfire, for PvE dicussion.

In PvE, enemy casters don't really move, they just die. Like, really fast. The only people you would get Coward to trigger on would be the melee, and why would you want to daze them?

Even if you somehow managed to catch an enemy caster moving, this seems like a pretty stupid way to apply Dazed, you'd be better off with Stunning Strike.... or Broad Headed Arrow.

Racthoh · Jan 31, 2008, 06:53 AM // 06:53

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Originally Posted by Captain Miken

In PvP, yeah...
But keep in mind, this is The Campfire, for PvE dicussion.

With that in mind, Coward! is a pretty terrible PvE elite to use though.

ChuckNoble · Jan 31, 2008, 10:03 PM // 22:03

how do you get the skills to show up in a thread? like the first poster?

MisterB · Jan 31, 2008, 10:16 PM // 22:16

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Originally Posted by ChuckNoble

how do you get the skills to show up in a thread? like the first poster?

It's a GWG forum feature brought to you by the good folks at the [SoF] guild. Here's a thread explaining them:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10225402

edit: The skill descriptions have not been updated since Nightfall, so you still must click the links for the correct description.

Arkantos · Feb 01, 2008, 01:26 AM // 01:26

In PvE, coward is a horrible elite.
In PvP, this could be alright in RA/AB, like pretty much anything.

Painbringer · Feb 01, 2008, 02:57 PM // 14:57

PVE – You move like a dwarf [skill]awe[/skill]

PVP - [skill]signet of judgment[/skill] [skill]awe[/skill]

runeseeker1 · Feb 06, 2008, 04:42 AM // 04:42

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Originally Posted by Painbringer

PVE – You move like a dwarf [skill]awe[/skill]

PVP if you use a melee weapon (RA minded response)

[skill]balanced stance[/skill] [skill]drunken blow[/skill] [skill]awe[/skill]

Eh? How would you kd them with Drunken Blow?

Painbringer · Feb 06, 2008, 02:21 PM // 14:21

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Originally Posted by runeseeker1

Eh? How would you kd them with Drunken Blow?

I am not sure what I was thinking….. For some reason I was thinking both got knocked down.

I will pull it off oops

Scourgey · Feb 06, 2008, 03:43 PM // 15:43

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Originally Posted by Mr Pvper

How well does this combo truely work anwyays

would like some feedback

I tried it in the past, it doesn't work as well as stunning strike, you need to think about the fact that most caster enemies run away from you if they are being hit rather than towards you, so when you use coward! you still need to spend some time running towards the KD foe, as KD is only 2 seconds long, the chances are you won't get there in 1.25 seconds to cast awe on them.

In other words you need to be relatively close, and then you have to wait for them to move before you can KD. Also, you need to remember you could be in the middle of an attack skill animation when they move, which would mean you don't cast awe immediately after a KD (unless you press escape then hit the awe key quickly).

Anyway, yes it does work, but it involves a lot more skill than hitting both buttons to get it to work successfully a large percentage of the time. It certainly has advantages over daze attacks, as it works if you are blinded & ignores blocking. (but you won't get the main advantage of daze if you can't hit the target anyway).

[edit - This is all PvP related]

Racthoh · Feb 07, 2008, 10:39 PM // 22:39

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Originally Posted by TheChad1215

Except you also have spears.

Anyway, if you're willing to use up an Elite slot for a dazed combo, why not just use Skull Crack?? Now, you have 7 slots left.

Skull Crack is a melee attack, won't work with spears.